!!help w/ tire problem!!

[B ReaL]

since i've had my h&r springs installed ive suffered from 1)excessive tire wear and 2) shredding of the inside tire wall on the front two tires..... ive had the alignment worked on and it has helped some but the problem still continues. ive gone through three sets of pirelli p7000 in three yrs. although most would consider that the avg, the tire tread is has not been completely worn down.... its the shredding of the inside of the tire wall thats caused the turnover in sets of front tires. im frustrated and just want the problem solved. fellow bnzsporters... got any insights. im takin my car into sander tomorrow to see if he can fix the problem.

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[Henry47]

everyone's going to tell you "get a camber kit or raise the car up"

[B ReaL]

screw that!

[B ReaL]

never! just cant have my car riding so high......! hahahahaaa..

[Dr. ///AMG]

What car do you have? What shocks? What tires, what wheels?

[ConceptEuroMBZ]

Although my tires were never that severely damaged, it did wear out very fast on the inner sides, along with everyone else...Only thing I did was switch the front two tires every time the inner wall seems to be wearing out. I just dismounted the fronts and switched sides, so at least it would wear more evenly and I would be able to use them longer.

[B ReaL]

sorry guys.

99 clk 430 w/ 18 X 8.5 brabus mono block Vs 225/40 (pirelli p7000) on front and 255/35 (pirelli p7000) on the rears. h&r springs w/ the stock shocks. same set up ive had pretty much since i've had the car.

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[W420]

Brandon, I think the only thing you can do is get the kind of tire that you can flip flop it... Should extend the tire life 30% or so..

You going to Sander tomorrow? You might see me there. Guess why? Same as you. Getting NEW tires. HAHAH. Purchased AUG/02. Lifespan - 10 Months - about 10K miles.. Fortunatelly the front looks okay so I probably only need to buy the rears...

Edit - Just looked closely at your pics. Holy shit!!! Hope you are not driving with them... Tire gonna pop any time!

[Dr. ///AMG]

Rotating the tires should help, but since you probably cannot (if you have directional tires), that won't help you.

The tires I have are 225 all around, but directional, so I can only rotate front to back and vice versa. I shoud've gone w/ S0-3's so I could switch anywhere I want. I'll get S0-3's next time again instead of these RE750.

Originally posted by W420

You going to Sander tomorrow? You might see me there.


:eek: :eek: :eek: I"m shocked! :D :D :D

[W420]

Originally posted by Dr. ///AMG

:eek: :eek: :eek: I"m shocked! :D :D :D

lol. True that, true dat. :D

My last set of tires were just like Brandon. Inner tire tread complete chewed up while the outside still looks pretty new so I was also planning to get SO-3's and just switch them around, but the funny thing is now I realize my rears are actually wearing faster on the OUTSIDE of tire this time, so there is no point of switching around anymore since I still have negative camber.. Now I plan to just stick to the Pirreli's so my car won't drive funny with mix & match brands for front and rear...

Don't you hate modding sometimes? Almost every weekend I'm freaking fixing or maintaining my car.. I don't even have spare time to wash car any more. And I've lost something more important in my life (behind on my work, social life, resting time). Monday the car is going back to bodyshop for the 3RD time to finish buffing the fenders (should have done that 3 months ago). Then after that I gotta fix my cigarette burn on the headliner !@#!@$!@$@# so much hassles... Screw modding. I don't need this kind of headache anymore :D

[B ReaL]

exactly will. i remember when i was emailing you about the tire problem last year. i really thought the alignment fix would have solved it but i guess not... damn. im getting sick of going through tires like a pack of gum... damit....

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[JRE320]

when I saw your rim size which is 8.5 and you are running 225x40 that's one thing you should consider if you got 8.5 wheel in the front coz 8.5 is kindna wide. Do you know if you got the right offset? Running 8.5 or 9" in the front is really pushing it to the edge. Let's see the result tomorrow after your appointment with TWS. Good luck.. ;)

[C280 JR]

damn, that sucks man, i hope that i do not go through that problem, i mean i will, but just not as bad as you!!..Plus those tires are hella expensive!

Elvir

[Luwin1026]

Originally posted by Dr. ///AMG


The tires I have are 225 all around, but directional, so I can only rotate front to back and vice versa.


Can't you dismount the tire from the wheel and flip it, then remount it back on the wheel and switch it to the other side?

Or just do a cross-pattern?

But in B.Real's case - the flipping method would be the only way to go.

That's what I did w/ my Nitto NT555's, and got awesome life out of them!

[Luwin1026]

Originally posted by C280 JR
damn, that sucks man, i hope that i do not go through that problem,

Elvir



That problem usually occurs on people with cars that are LOWERED. Your worries are futile for now, my son. :D

[B ReaL]

just got back from tws. pete said that i needed new tires (knew that) and put on the yoko avs db s2s. also recommended me to get the alignment worked on again. sander said many clks dont have the camber problem but i was one of the "lucky" ones that did. so i went to bear alignment on new/garvey and it wasnt open....:mad: anybody recommend an alignment place in sf valley closer to me so i can get the alignment done during weekday????

[W420]

Dang, I was there almost the whole afternoon today but guess I still missed you... If I saw you today, I would have told you that Bear in Monterey park does not open on Saturday, because I did exactly the same thing before (drove down there on Sat only to be greeted by closed doors. LOL). Would have told you to go this place in Temple City (JC Auto Haus, which is open on Sat). I don't know any place in the SF valley though. Hope others can chim in on this.

[B ReaL]

thanks will. i think i saw a car out there in the parking lot ( the one w/ the fabolous decal) but wasnt sure if it was yours. i got there at 10am and was out of there by 1130. had a wedding to go to so couldnt spare any more time. yup. greeted to closed doors at bear alignment. oh well. i think this was just not meant to be something easily taken care of. guess i will try going back on a weekday if anybody else cannot recommend somthing in the sf valley to me.... hope these yokos give a little more life...

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[W420]

Brandon, the Fabulous W210 there is Ben & Andrew's car... I got there kinda late. Around noon time then went out couple hours with Sander and his friend for lunch (left my car at the shop).

Good luck with alignment and hope you get more life out of those Yokos... I ordered a pair of SO-3's too and hopefully I'll get them to last longer this time too. :D

[B ReaL]

S-03s!!! those were the best performing tires i've had. although the my s03s both got flats in less than a year so i am not too keen on them as durable tires.... yup, im trying to find an alignment shop here in the sf valley. i dont think i can make it back to the sg valley by the time bear alignment closes. if not , ill just have to leave work early or something. good luck w/ your s-03s!

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[Brabus]

Sorry to hear about your tire woes... is it just camber that's causing the problem?

[MidniteBluBenz]

B Real, Wouldn't a set of 5mm spacers fix your problem?
AVS Db's are good tires. I have a set on my car now...durability is good, and quiet as heck.
Damn, I'm lucky I havn't had any problems with tire wear.

[oosix]

those Bear guys always want to heat up the upper arms and bend them. I think that's bad b/c u can't get it back to what it was b4. On the 208 & 202, the front part they want to heat up isn't easily replacable. But if u dont mind, it'll certainly help.

other than that, I don't know what you can do b/c I went through this alignment issue a few months ago. Spent over 500 on k-mac camber kit and adjusted the heck outta it and it only got me a sad .7 degrees of correction.

Like JRE said, u're 8.5 fronts may be a bit wide for the front wheels' vertical plannar angles during turns. I would guess the inner edges extend toward the inside too much, putting too much presure on those edges during turns. Just a guess bc I'm no expert at this.

Although my wear prob wasn't as dramtic as urs, I gave up & raised the car so my folks can drive it w/o all this headache in my absence.

[B ReaL]

damn. thanks everyone for the insight. i guess i will just have the alignment done and then be a little more watchful and have the tires swapped to the opposite sides to get more life out of them. the rim size is what is recommended straight from brabus for clk. i had wanted to get 18X9.5 but they didnt make them until the year after i bought the rims. im not aware if a spacer will fix the problem. if the wheels were spaced out by a few mm, wouldnt that ideally make the problem worse? agreed, im no expert at this also, but sander said the alignment and swapping of the tires is about all i can do....

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[B ReaL]

i finally got the chance to go to Bear Wheel and Alignment on gravey/new ave in monterey park last week. Duane, the manager there was actually very helpful and explained my options to me. he checked out the alignment and told me that it did not need any adjustment. he probably could've charged me for it and not done anything. he told me the alignment had already been "toe-ed in" to a minor degree to help compensate for the positive camber. he said that every car that is lowered from the stock/factory specification will have this problem to some degree. the only other alternative he gave was geating the arm and decrease the camber off degree back to 1 degree or so. once this is done, it needs to be heated and modified back if the car were to ever be returned to stock specifications. knowing that, i choose not to go that route and will simply be more attentive and have the tires swapped at about 5K miles. hope my experience can help some the other forum members with the excessive tire wear problem.....

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