Info On Asp Pulley For Pre-2000 R170 And W202

[linh]

Linh,

Can you please post up the info on the 202 ASP pulley upgrade, including the following bits on information?

HP gain
Torque gain
Reliability in the long-term
Price of the kit itself, and what it includes
Estimated time/cost of install

I have a few fellow 202ers that have been asking me about the kit, but I only have info/experience about the Kleemann.

As requested by Luwin1026 and Golden1245 for more info regarding on mine ASP pulley for the pre-2000 R170 (Slk 230) and pre-2000 W202 (C230 Kompressor sedan). To make this story short, i used to have the Kleemann pulley and wasn't happy with it after i dynoed my car at Evosport. My car air fuel ratio was at 15.1:1 (super lean). I was able to lower the Air fuel ratio by installed the fuel pressure regulator (not include with kit) but still wasn't happy and so i decided to design my own pulley kit with ASP. I consider my kit to be very safe because i run the lowest boost (8.5 psi) then all the others kit out there on the market. Here's the spec. between my old Kleemann pulley vs mine ASP pulley after dynoed test on my manual 99' Slk 230.

Kleeman Pulley

Boost- 9.5 psi
Hp & Tq- 192 hp & 219 tq (Air fuel ratio at 15.1:1)
Hp & Tq- 186 hp & 210 tq ( with fuel pressure regulator drop, the air fuel
ratio drop down to 13.5:1)
Kit- Bigger alloy pulley, alt. pulley, belt, colder plugs and MAS relocation kit.
Labor- Can not install at home without the air impact gun.
Price- $1800

ASP Pulley

Boost- 8.5 psi
Hp & Tq- 184 hp & 209 tq (with fuel pressure regulator and air fuel ratio at
13.1:1)
Kit- Bigger factory pulley with "damper", belt, colder plug, fuel pressure
regulator and "plug & play" Mas relocation kit.
Labor- Can install at home without air impact gun in about 2 hrs. (for manual
only)
Price- $750 (with your old factory pulley exchange)
$1050 (without your old factory pulley exchange)

As for long term reliability, i personally think mine ASP pulley kit is better then Kleemann pulley kit due to two reason. Mine kit used the fuel pressure regulator and run less boost then kleemann. Therefore my air fuel ratio are lower and that in turn lower the combustion chamber temp. for reliability. And also mine ASP pulley are modified from Mercedes factory pulley with "damper" and Kleemann pulley are alloy pulley WITHOUT the factory damper. To be honest, i have sold alot of this kit around the worlds (most to benzworld.org forum members) for the pre-2000 R170 but have never sold one kit to the pre-2000 W202 owner yet because i haven't even thought about promoting this kit in the W202 forum until now because i wasn't really doing this for the money but i just want to help ASP. So, here's the deal, for $750 and your factory pulley exchange, i will sell the complete kit include installation at my house for the first W202 owner with manual tranny. I gaurantee that you will be 100% happy, if not, i will return your car back to stock and refund 100% of your money back. And if you like the kit, in exchange, i just want your words of mouth pass on to this and other forums. If interesting or for more info, please drop me an e-mail at ldnguyen1971@hotmail.com.

Thank you everyone,

Linh

[MrSpace]

only probel is that in the US there are no manual W202

all automatic...

Etienne

[Golden1245]

only 750$? Darn, I don't have a manual tranny.

[Renn 208]

Originally posted by Golden1245@Mar 14 2004, 12:38 PM
only 750$? Darn, I don't have a manual tranny.
don't think that should matter.

[MrSpace]

which chip is recommenced with this mod?

GIAC, upsolute, powerchip??

Etienne

[linh]

QUOTE (Golden1245 @ Mar 14 2004, 12:38 PM)
only 750$? Darn, I don't have a manual tranny.*


don't think that should matter.

Yes it does, it impossible for one person to remove the crank pulley on an automatic without the torque convertor lock up tool. Unless you have the air impact gun then you don't need the torque convertor lock up tool. If there's no manual, then i will take an automatic but you would have to help me to do the installation.


which chip is recommenced with this mod?

GIAC, upsolute, powerchip??

I don't recommend any of those chips. It a waste of money. I try Upsolute chip with 4 difference version and they made it worse. I personally don't understand on some of those chip company claimed hp gain on a car they never dyno it. Not every mods car are the same, some run higher boost then other, some use fuel pressure regulator and other don't, some use colder plugs and other don't. So every car function a little differently. To have a good chip, every chip should tune to that car accordingly on the dyno. The only way you can tune a chip on just one car and sell it if that chip is tuned base on the stock car and only sell it to stock car. Awhile back, i talked to Dick Chang many times regarding his chip (Dynospotracing) but i decided not to try his chip even those he give me a 30 days 100% money back gaurantee because i has also talk to GIAC. GIAC is the company that custom tuned Dynospotracing chip just for Dynospotracing pulley kit. GIAC told me that he does not think Dynospotracing chip will work on Kleemann pulley or any other crank pulley kit because the Dynospotracing pulley require the removal of the SC clutch completely, where other crank pulley kit still run on the factory SC clutch. Do you see why now? To be fair, GIAC also said that if Dynospotracing would work on other crank pulley kit, it would only work about 70% at max. I'll said it one more time, you don't need chip for the pulley mod. Chip is another way they're trying to make money of you. If chip are truely give alot of hp gain with pulley kit like they claimed, Kleemann would have a custom chip on the market already. Kleemann did try to design there own chip but i believe it has been cancelled due to not much gain in hp.

[CKlasse]

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