Could I have explained this any better?

[pokerface]

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php...248#post1170248 (http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1170248#post1170248)

Downshifting-induced drivewheel lock...

[dtmcoupe]

may i ask how you have 3 phones? and why is there a phone forums.....you geeks :P

[pokerface]

i buy phones for the family... (chief technology officer of the house.. lol)

[C280 JR]

i never heard of a phone forum....what do u talk about...how many minutes u have left, and wheter or not u have reception

Elvir

[pokerface]

lol, I'm sure other forums ask about car forums like ours..

-how many miles per gallon are you guys getting?

-who is that clown that just fingered me?:rolleyes:

[Rocky]

Poker and I are advid reader of howardforums...it's a wealth of knowledge...especially when checking out the inside scoop on carriers, special, new technologyand thee's also a buy sell forum.

I'm on it everyday and read it alot.

[yvrbenz]

This my be nitpicking, but the term "Downshifting-induced drivewheel lock" is incorrect.

In inherently low traction circumstances (in the wet or on ice) you indeed can lose control by downshifting, however what occurs is not wheel lock per se, but strictly a loss of traction. wheel lock occurs when the wheels stop spinning entirely. In manual transmissioned cars, this phenomena is dealt with by double clutching and blipping the throttle while downshifting.

but you basically have the explanation down fairly well.

you might want to explain to PreFknLude_SiR that braking with the car in neutral is asking for trouble. unless you have ABS, you're increasing the risk of lockup by braking in neutral.

the reason he feels the brakes "grabbing" more in neutral is because there's no braking assistance offered by the engine when the car is in neutral therefore the brakes are doing more work. this "grabbing" feeling that he gets is an illusion since the tires are what stop the car, not the brakes.

combining engine braking with the use of the service brakes will help you scrub of speed in a controlled manner while decreasing the chances of lock-up of the drive wheels. non-driven wheels will still lock up under hard braking though.

In automatic cars, simply downshifting will provide increased engine braking (just like cars with manual transmissions).

and one should never perform hard braking maneuvers with the car in neutral

[pokerface]

yvr, i thought I made a little *edit* mark on my post there saying, yeah, its not really lock, but a loss of traction? :rolleyes:

anyway, if you dont mind, i'll just paste your entire post in there. It's a learning experience for us all :D

[Vodka G]

Originally posted by dtmcoupe
may i ask how you have 3 phones? and why is there a phone forums.....you geeks :P :werd: :stupid: LOL:D

[yvrbenz]

Originally posted by pokerface
yvr, i thought I made a little *edit* mark on my post there saying, yeah, its not really lock, but a loss of traction? :rolleyes:


oops. i must have blinked and missed it ;)

[pokerface]

Originally posted by Rocky
Poker and I are advid reader of howardforums...it's a wealth of knowledge...especially when checking out the inside scoop on carriers, special, new technologyand thee's also a buy sell forum.

I'm on it everyday and read it alot.

yes. not to mention there's probably 100x more clowns on the Lounge and Car Forum than MBW and bnzsport combined :rolleyes:

[Rocky]

Originally posted by pokerface
yes. not to mention there's probably 100x more clowns on the Lounge and Car Forum than MBW and bnzsport combined :rolleyes:

:werd:

FOBS are so friggin dumb.

[MidniteBluBenz]

yea right!?
a phone forum...thats phat.