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MB300E87
10-19-2004, 08:28 PM
BNZSport.com Guest Writer Contest Winner

I wanted a Mercedes, I wanted a W202, and I wanted a warranty. So I got a 2000 C230 kompressor last spring. The C43 was appealing, but since I was only 23 years old and my budget was limited, I could not afford the insurance or price of the AMG.

I have been on BNZsport and Club202 a while looking at the mods available on the car. It seemed there weren?t many options available for the 230k, but since its a kompressor, the simplest replacement for displacement is boost.

Not a lot of options there either. Dynospot racing, Kleemann or ASP. Dynospot had a 30whp gain but removed the magnetic supercharger clutch and this wasn?t an option since my car is under warranty; the price was around $1200 for pulley and a GIAC chip. Kleemann stopped producing the kit so finding one was almost impossible; that kit was $1800. I checked on what Linh (can be found on Club202) had to offer. His kit includes a smaller pulley than Kleemann giving a little less boost, thus less stress on the engine. No need for a chip since the fuel pressure regulator did the job and there was also MAS relocation. I didn?t get the cool Kleemann badges, but I didn?t want them anyway.

Nobody had an ASP pullied W202, which scared me a little. After reading a lot on the R170 forums (using the same engine), I got more and more confident on the ASP since many users were happy with the product. As an added incentive, when you send your old pulley back to ASP, they credit you for the core exchange. This makes the kit at something like $450 total which I considered a steal.

I wanted to have a base dyno and see the gains from the pulley. I went to L-Sport in Montreal that has the latest technology in dynos; a dynapack. The dynapack is placed directly on your hubs and you can even dyno 4WD cars.

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The results were somewhat disappointing. In stock form I got 138whp and 149 wtq. On the chart below, the first run was flooring it at 3500rpm, second at 3000 and third at 2500.

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I went and got the kit installed. Before I get to how it feels and performs, here are the instruction on how to do this.

- Note BNZSport nor myself shall be responsible for any mishaps you should encounter if you choose to do this installation yourself. In performing this mod you are doing so at your own risk. Again, BNZSport nor myself will be responsible for any damage to your car should you choose to follow the instructions below. Be advised, proper safety measures should always be taken when working on your car.

Before beginning, check to make sure you have everything: Pulley, Pipe, Plugs, FPR and belt.

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1- Disconnect battery. Jack car with the jackstand in the trunk, just enough to slide the jack under the car from one side and jack completly the car. Then place two candles in order to stabilize everything.

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2- Remove the plastic protection under the engine. 4 screws hold it in place.

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3- Remove the two clips on top of the fan housing

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4- Pull out the plastic fan housing

5- Unscrew the 3 bolts holding the fan blades using an allen key.

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6- Loosen the two belt tensionners one by one and remove each belt.

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7- Remove the Viscous fan assembly. First remove two of the 4 bolts on the water pump pulley (behind the viscous fan). You need a 36mm fan wrench (Snap-On Special Toll SP346) and a special tool (Miller Special Tool 6958 Spanner Wrench) in order for the pulley not to rotate. You need to use adapter pins 8346 to put in the two holes from the previously removed bolts. This is right handed so you need to do as if you want to tighten the bolt in order to loosen it. In my case, we used a flat bar and cut out a 36mm wide strip with a plasma cutter to make the wrench.. and we used another flat bar with two holes and an opening in order to stop the pulley from rotating (putting the holes where the two left bolt heads are).

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8- Lock the torque converter under the car. You will see right after the spot where the jack is (towards the rear of the car), two openings (see picture) with a piece in it rotation when someone turns the crank pulley. Block the torque converter using a metal bar placed in the hole towards the front of the car, you will see there is a metal part that the bar will block against and then you can hold it there to apply the torque on the pulley bolt to loosen it.

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9- Remove the bolt and washer holding the pulley in place.

10- Pry the pulley out of the shaft using flat screwdrivers or better, pry bars. It?s easier to pry it from uder the car. Try prying it on both sides at the same time to keep everything aligned.

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11- Mark the new ASP pulley where the keyway is (the part where the key of the car?s shaft will align).

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12- Put back the pulley on the car making sure it?s perfectly aligned. You will feel it being in the right spot and sliding into place.

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13- Put the bolt and washer back on the pulley.

14- Block the torque converter on the other side of the metal part to stop the rotation on the other way.

15- Torque the pulley bolt to 200lbs-ft

16- Route the original belt (the one going to the driver?s side accessories) and use the same technique as to remove it in order to loosen the tensionner pulley.

17- Route the new belt for the supercharger/alternator. Check the routing twice at least as it?S VERY easy to do it bad. If the belt is too slack, that?s because your routing was wrong (happened to me)

18- Unscrew the spark plug cover using allen keys.

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19- Remove the 4 bolts holding two of the spark plug covers.

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20- Pull out the 4 spark plugs plugs (!). You might have to pull pretty hard.

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21- Remove the spark plug using a spark plug socket, an extention and a ratchet. You need a spark plus socket (with rubber in it) or else you won?t be able to pull out the plug of the hole.

22- Put the new spark plugs in. Torque the plugs to 15-22 lbs-ft.

23- Remove the original Fuel Pressure Regulator using a c-clamp tool (see picture). Put a cloth under since it might spill some fuel. Put the new FPR in place.

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24- Unclip the MAS and remove it by loosening the clamps around the plastic hose with a flat screwdriver. You need to completly remove the lower hose going into the MAS.

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25- Plug the MAS where the removed tube was, right on the left of the windshield washer fluid tank. Don?t forget to put it in the right way, menas the arrow must point towards the engine.

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26- Plug the supplied pipe between the MAS and the original potition of the mass near the intercooler. Fasten all clamps with the flat screwdriver.

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27- Put a tie-wrap to hold the MAS wire in place.

28- Put everything back... the viscous fan, the two bolts for the water pump pulley, the fan blades and the fan housing, the plastic cover under the engine, the spark plugs, the spark plugs cover.

29- Reconnect battery. Start car and check if the belt rubs, if everything is fine.

30- Enter your radio code. Turn wheels fully on each side (in order to reset the ABS/BAS light). Push each windows button in the up position fand hold it for 2 seconds (not fully pressed, only the first step), this sets the auto-up/down feature.

31- Take the car for a drive, it will feel wierd. You?ll think the engine takes forever to build RPMs and doesn?t want to shift. This is normal. Drive for 10-15 minutes, shut the engine, start it again and drive again.. the car should feel better and better. After a few more minutes driving everything should be fine.

32- Enjoy your power. You WILL feel it, especially in the 50-80 or highay acceleration. You will also go way faster than you were used to using the same pedal press (so the first times you?ll arrive at an higher speed at the stop sign).



Now I had to go back to the dyno and see the results.

Same dyno, same ratio used. The calculated ratio should have been 4.8723 but I used the same one as before, it didn?t affect the numbers, only the speed and RPM might be a little shifted. The three runs were floored at 2500 RPM this time since we knew it would not kick down.

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I got 156 whp and 180 wtq. That?s a gain if 18 whp and 31wtq. If I convert it into crank, it gives approximatly 215 horsepower and 240 pound-feet of torque.

You can really feel the difference in torque as it kicks you in the seat a lot more. Those are not butt-dyno gains, but proven gains with same car, same dyno.

I hope I?ve shown every 1999-2000 C230k owner that there is a very cheap alternative to get more power from their cars. I think this is the best bang for the buck power mod we have. If anyone needs more information, contact me I?ll be glad to help.

Etienne

Luwin1026
10-19-2004, 08:53 PM
Great article! Very informative and I'm sure inspiring to M111 owners!! :lol:

MrSpace
10-19-2004, 10:30 PM
I went to the drag again today.. The problem is that I'm on winter tires, 195 wide so I can'T compare my times with before.

Altough I think the Carlssons with 255 gives best results than my steelies with 195.

I made 16.3 last time, tonight I made 15.8

Can't wait next year to try it out with my wheels (allowing me to give a lot more power off the line)

Do someone know wat boost mazimum was made on a M111 engine? Kleemannm, Vaeth gives something like what, 11psi? Did someone tested more that this, like 15 or something?

Etienne

Ozzie Bob
10-19-2004, 10:40 PM
That's a great write up! ;)

speedyTe
10-19-2004, 10:52 PM
Great write up Etienne!!!

MrSpace
10-20-2004, 10:03 AM
btw, I messed up the price, it's 750$ with core exchange, 1050$ without (you get 300$ for the old pulley)

sorry!

Etienne

Brabus
10-20-2004, 10:56 AM
Excellent writeup and very informative DIY!! :)

Good stuff.

So how often do you get to the strip?

MrSpace
10-20-2004, 11:24 AM
went twice

once stock, tried to learn how to launch the car. Did not do very good. 16.3 with carlsson 18".

yesterday with pulley and winter steelies+tires. Had big traction problems, I'll check my 60" times to see what's the difference with the first time. I finally got to find how to launch wthout spinning, but that was giving really not a lot of power on the start, which summed up at 15.8.

I'm getting the complete exhaust+cats.

I hope in getting at 14.999 someday (I think I can get it next year), after that I stop modding the engine. Anyways my car is under warranty so I can't go too wild.

Etienne

kameraguy
10-20-2004, 12:21 PM
Great article!! Very informative!

At first i thought Thomas wrote this. Maybe for future guest writer posts make reference to the actual writer at the very begining of the thread?

1998K
10-21-2004, 03:01 AM
Really a work very well done, thanks a lot for the usefull photo. ;)

I'll keep in mind your photo when I have to change the serpentine belt, because I didn't see previously how the tensioner belt pulley work. It seems an easy job.

I've seen in your photo that black plastic device on the right side of the engine (at the top). It seems the oil separator. Have you some experience to avoid oil vapour in inlet manifold, may be with a suitable filter?

Thanks again

Hi :D

Alf
12-02-2004, 05:24 PM
Very good article! Now I know it does not have to cost & arm & a leg to get more power for my merc, thanks!